If the catalytic converter is dirty I can see how cleaning it would work. Darryl Waddy 1 year ago Reply to Doug I just posted a procedure I’ve watched a mechanic did for cleaning cat. PA shouldn't be too stiff. What the LT is supposed to do is clean off the catalyst. . Note the cat efficiency is measured by the downstream O2 sensor. . The 50209 looks like the only possible choice. . Guy's machine read 4 codes but said they were all the same code...P0430. If not, look for a blocked or restricted vacuum hose or valve. Overview Product Description Exhaust Manifold Downpipe Kit for all 1FZ Toyota Land Cruisers. . Unfortunately my P0430 Servise light did not go off. 6- Finally, Clean the PCV valve and hoses with lacquer thinner and a thin hose brush, if necessary. Save Share. P0430 can be intermittent. According to one video, if driving lacquer thinner through it didn’t work, the other solution was to remove the cat and soak it in a bucket of water and laundry detergent? Try cleaning first, but find the cause to prevent it again! I see low voc lacquer thinner for sale. While the idea behind cleaning out your own cat is reasonable, I would NEVER EVER EVER recommend putting lacquer thinner into a customer's car. I wonder if the pipe got larger with the 2008 4.7 power boost, this part was listed for 2005-2008. . . Hopefully the rest of the exhaust is salvageable. If the sensor is getting 'lazy' (reacting slow) or reading high/low, the diagnostics may see and report it as a cat problem when it may be an O2 problem. Some find a lacquer thinner effective, too, with the ratio of 1 gallon of thinner to a half-full gas tank. I would try to figure why it went bad. 2008 Dodge Dakota, 4.7. 2. 1999 - 2004 Odyssey. To my suprice, it is heavy and very well built. Guy's machine read 4 codes but said they were all the same code...P0430. Continue with Google . Re: P0430 and P0440. It won't pass inspection because of above codes. JavaScript is disabled. Link to post Share on other sites. . Cashless Payment - Use cashless payment to minimise contact. . I was also going to use a quart in a very low fuel tank, not a gallon, so it didn’t stay in there long. With the proper 4.7 plug tool it was pretty simple. . Still, if you can do it yourself, it’s a cheap fix if it works. I called dealer and he said I have two cats on my car and just for cats it is over 1200 dollars. It takes a long time to set a cat code. The P0420 is from the bank 1 catalytic converter and the P0430 is from the bank 2 cat on a V engine. . Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! • consider to pour lacquer thinner on the gas tank. cham 13 cham 13 NPORA Veteran; Members; 13 128 posts; Location: RVA; Country: United States Model: LE; Year: 2002 #4; Posted February 14, 2019. Chrysler fleet: 87 Caravan LE 3.0, 91 G Caravan LE, 92 G Voyager LE, 94 G Caravan LE, 02 T&C Limited, 09 T&C Limited, 72 B250, 79 B350, 67 Dart 225, 70 Valiant P/U, 73 Valiant 225, 73 Valiant 360, 78 DJ5, 91.5 D250, 91.5 D350, 92 D250, 95 D350, 96 D2500, 04 RAM 250, all trucks Cummins. Quote; Share this post. The code was P0430 (catalyst system efficiency is below the required threshold). Before I bought, I hooked up my scanner and saw all monitors ready, no codes, and a large number of cycles so I know codes were not recently cleared. . Diggers 1L General Purpose Lacquer Thinner, Removes chewing gum, some inks, waxes, PVC adhesives and other plastics. The car is not designed to run off of it, and while I won't say it WILL cause problems, but there is a risk in burning something other than unleaded gasoline, and I am not willing to take that risk, or recommend it to a customer. Nothinh wrong with lacquer thinner as that is also made out of petrolium distillates. A forum community dedicated to Dodge, Jeep, Ram, Chrysler, AMC owners and enthusiasts. Good luck! Note the cat efficiency is measured by the downstream O2 sensor. Following a youtube video by Scotty somebody, I ran a gallon of lacquer thinner through with 1/2 a tank. . Sort by: Average Rating: (5.0) out of 5 stars 11 ratings, based on 11 reviews. This is the kit that is needed when you need to replace your Y-pipe and front catalytic converter. . Have you tried pouring 1 gal of Lacquer Thinner into gas tank when near empty and then fill up after. The PCM tries to be very careful about failing the correct emissions-related component at all times. I haven't done the converter yet, maybe this weekend. California (CARB) is picky about aftermarket converters. Share this post. Although lacquer thinners aren’t bad for your skin, it can definitely cause annoyance due to issues like redness, mild cracks, or spot-specific dryness. Continue with Google . . Next, run your engine at 2500 rpm for about 30 minutes or longer. Guy's machine read 4 codes but said they were all the same code...P0430. I cleared the code, but he truck was already warmed up. Put a new OEM fuel cap on and ran it for a couple of days. My 1987 Horizon had the converter disintegrate and periodically block the outlet with a dislodged chunk, my original 2.6L in my convertible had it's converter plug up to where it would barely run, my daughter-in-law had 1989 Grand Voyager that would barely get out of it's own way, 3.0L with questionable guides and my last Chrysler Town & Country, a 2005 with the 3.8L engine, the inlet flex section split and it had to be replaced. I also don’t recommend doing the lacquer thinner trick if you read up on that anywhere. Going to give a try. Try adding it in a bit higher concentration that the bottle says, like a partial tank of gas, or even less. I drove down to San Diego at a constant speed of 65 m/h for one and a half hour. Plan ahead - Research online & make a list, Shop Smart - Download our product finder app to minimise time spent in store. 2020 Jeep Gladiator Sport S | 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport | 1989 Dodge Dakota Sport convertible | 1980 Chrysler LeBaron T&C | 1979 Chrysler Cordoba T-Tops. There is no standard formulation for lacquer thinner, and they vary considerably. Exhaust Manifold Downpipe Kit. A catalytic converter is an emissions control device that converts toxic gases and pollutants in exhaust gas to less toxic pollutants. It looks solid, but it may be too corroded to use once I remove the y pipe, who knows?. Why replace only 3 oxygen sensors? So I finally got back to this repair. Clean the PCV valve and hoses with lacquer thinner and a thin hose brush, if necessary. Thanks! . Reply. I see your inquiry on the Walker website. But I just did the 16 plugs. Idle speed will drop between 40 to 80 rpm, and then rise back to normal. I have a 2007 Pontiac g6 6 cylinder with 159k. Continue with Facebook. Intake had been in there a long time, exhaust probably never changed. Magic in a bottle! Ingredients in lacquer thinner are labeled hazardous and hence if it gets on your skin you should wash off your skin immediately with soap and water. I . Here's how to fix the problem. In all my years of driving Chrysler products, this would be my third replacement: Thankfully we do not have emission testing here, it is a visual, essentially is the catalytic converter present? 1) From 'how to clean catalytic converters' by Scotty Kilmer: Add 1 gallon of lacquer thinner to half tank gas. This might be useful info to anyone with high CO2 emissions, or chasing a P0420 or P0430 OBD Code (Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold). But added three more codes; P0420 pending Bank1, P0420 pending bank1, and P0430 pending bank 2. Sadly, most of the time it is accurate. Continue with Facebook. Specifications . I've had good luck with the 'Direct Fit' converter assemblies. Sometimes the catalyst material breaks loose, sometimes a misfire fouls them out. . Customers can shop with us in-store or online with our Click & Deliver or Drive & Collect services. Sadly, most of the time it is accurate. 159k miles, recent purchase. Remember–these cleaning solutions may or may not work depending on the condition of your catcon, so if you want the best results, getting a replacement is still the best way to go. Let me add here that the original criticism here of the lacquer thinner was that it would seriously harm the fuel system. Save Share. Its like several fule injector cleaners at once. Top. SILVER Star. . Please enable JavaScript in your browser settings to enhance your experience. Well, it worked for me with no negative effects. 1 - 5 of 5 Posts. . 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. It worked and lasted for a few months. We also have an update clause that allows newer engines in older vehicles and they only have to meet the year of the vehicle. I guess I'm going to be having a new Y pipe catalyst assembly put on, most likely. YMMV. I've ordered a new converter assembly, new mounting hardware, and three new O2 sensors (I'm not going to bother trying to remove the old ones). . Cataclean 120018CAT Cataclean Fuel And Exhaust System Cleaner Special Formula For Use w/Gasoline Engines 3 Liters Cataclean Fuel And Exhaust System Cleaner . . .2008 Dodge Dakota, 4.7. I reset the light by disconnecting the battery for a few minutes. 11 reviews. . . If not, look for a blocked or restricted vacuum hose or valve. . He came back the next day and I plugged my computer and put a test and got it fixed. I go to an automotive paint store and buy a gallon of lacquer thinner and mix it with at least nine gallons of gasoline and drive it around. Another way to test for vacuum is to pinch or block the vacuum hose connected to the PCV valve. I see low voc lacquer thinner for sale. . Idle speed will drop between 40 to 80 rpm, and then rise back to normal. I did the reading on the internet about running paint thinner through the fuel system, using soap and water to "wash" the cat, buying a can of "Cataclean" and putting it in the gas tank, etc. The P0420 is from the bank 1 catalytic converter and the P0430 is from the bank 2 cat on a V engine. Worked for a bunch of cars in the comments: YouTube 2) remove 02 sensors and spray seafoam into the hole to 'fog' the cat and remove carbon buildup. This video I made for fun do to my catalytic converter on my car is going bad. Diggers Lacquer Thinner is a specially formulated lacquer and varnish thinner and cleaning solvent. I'm game for the lacquer thinner option I've been hearing about. Save money and just buy some lacquer thinner (worked), which is where this product probably got there idea. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There is an upstream sensor and downstream sensor on the left and right bank for a total of 4 devices. Hopefully the 1987/8 Turbo II in my 1986 convertible will not be an issue, it will get a nice high flow converter on the 2 1/2" exhaust from the 1989 parts car. All monitors are ready now. It is the last OBDII readiness monitor test run after everything else is confirmed OK. I’ll clear it before I head home after Labor Day and see what happens. You may even find you have both P0420 and P0430 trouble codes at the same time. Hello everyone, this is not a lets play "It's Game Time" video. Seems your cat needs to lose only 10-15% efficiency to trigger a light. Wonder if it matters which version you use? Thanks Allan and IC. Joined Apr 11, 2013 Messages 6,058 Location San Jose, CA Jul 17, 2019 #291 nissanh said: 420 and 430 are for cat, correct? We have detected that JavaScript has been disabled in your browser. Join the discussion. I saw this from Scotty Kilmer website. Interesting note for you IC, the only vehicles I have ever owned with catalytic converter issues have all been Chryslers. I had poured a gallon of lacquer thinner from Home Depot into a half tank of Shell premium gas in my 2004 Xterra. Alternative Tests. Trying to do the cheap things first (before 02 sensors or cat replacement) ... - I heard putting a gallon of lacquer thinner in a half full (see, I'm an optimist) fuel tank and running truck at 2500 rpm's for 30 minutes + or - will clean out most dirty Cats. I have had good luck using lacquer thinner. Would this cause other problems? P0430 can be intermittent. I've found my mistake. . or sign up with email About this Discussion. . Never even needed an extension! It never really made much noise until about a month after I started getting the efficiency monitor code. Filled gas tank and drove 100 miles. This lets me run an MAF/SEFI system in my truck without having any catalytic converter. http://oskin.ru/pub/chrysler-dodge/manuals/Chrysler_Service_Parts_Catalog/CD5/06-09/08ND.pdf, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Beating the P0420/P0430 Catalytic Converter below efficiency If you have trouble understanding this article, better understand the role of Upstream O2 Senors first. A guy said that he added some lacquer thinner to his gas tank to 'clean' the cat and … I just did that with a guy’s car that failed in emissions and I said "you drive it." The plugs were really bad. Both P0420 and P0430 CEL popping up consistently. Can anyone please help me. . … I take that story with a grain of salt. . Avoid shopping in groups, Physical Distancing - Maintain 1.5m between yourself & others. I always like to erase a code once to see if it comes back, especially if the circumstances leading up to it aren't 'normal'. Link to post Share on other sites. I guess if it wasn't then the inspector might look underhood for the rest. . A guy said that he added some lacquer thinner to his gas tank to 'clean' the cat and get the code to clear. Alternative PCV Valve Testing Methods. Went out on the highway, with some slow to medium sppeds on secondary roads. . Same in-stock item available for same-day delivery or collection, including GST and delivery charges. . . . I'm game for the lacquer thinner option I've been hearing about. . This might be useful info to anyone with high CO2 emissions, or chasing a P0420 or P0430 OBD Code (Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold). P0430 means it is time to replace the cat. If a false cat failure happened to become 'common', it would get the attention of the EPA. Improves paint consistency and reduces the risk of imperfections, We will gladly assist with returns and exchanges of this product in accordance with our returns and exchanges policy, Where you find a competitor's lower price on the same stocked item, we'll beat it by10%. Reply. I also bought Eastern Catalytic converter as it was 195 shipped. Halfway into the trip the CEL came on, code P0430. Honda Odyssey Generation Forums. Dumped 3/4 gallon of lacquer thinner into about 20 gallons of fuel. When I've been dealing with a car with intermittent P0420/P0430 codes, that's where I've begun. There are some things that you have to consider before trying to clean your catalytic converter. or sign up with email About this Discussion. Thanks @2001LC for directing me back to this thread. The pipe is too small to bolt to the exhaust manifolds. Ajmboy 504 Ajmboy 504 Elite Contributor ; Moderators; 504 5,902 posts; Mahopac, NY Posted June 3, 2019. Flanges are thick so does the pipe. If the sensor is getting 'lazy' (reacting slow) or reading high/low, the diagnostics may see and report it as a cat problem when it may be an O2 problem. Reply. We continue to follow government advice and thank our amazing team for all their hard work helping our customers. 100 miles later and I have not ready on catalyst, O2, O2 heater and I have a pending P0430. Join the discussion. Improves paint consistency and reduces the risk of imperfections. They have been able to pass NY emissions. 2011 Ford Flex limited; 1986 F350, many modifications. I see low voc lacquer thinner for sale. I tried it on my 2005 RAV4 when it was at 278k mi. . The P0430 check engine light code, like P0420, means the catalyst system efficiency is below the required threshold. Last edited: Jul 17, 2019. nukegoat Should have bought a Jeep. See more. No P0440 yet. It can cause some issues with the fuel pump on these vehicles. 2000 Odyssey - Trouble Codes 0420, 0706, 0430 Diggers Lacquer Thinner is a specially formulated lacquer and varnish thinner and cleaning solvent. Wonder if it matters which version you use? 159k miles, recent purchase. ... Run 1 gallon of lacquer thinner through the gas tank (when at 1/2 tank) as per Scotty Kilmer; If you have a heat temperature infrared "gun", check the exhaust temperature before the cat and right after. The Tech Specs give pipe diameters and dimensions. Is it a coincidence or is there something else I should suspect before the cat converter? I've ordered a new converter assembly, new mounting hardware, and three new O2 sensors (I'm not going to bother trying to remove the old ones). Catalytic converters are used with internal combustion engines fueled by either petrol (gasoline). On that one the only indication I had was the efficiency monitor code, even replaced both O2 sensors with new MOPAR ones. Then go take on a hill in a lower gear to get the RPM up and sustain it for a bit. . 160k on it. Repeat if needed. Spray in hole toward cat, spray o2 sensor, re-assemble, run car. I believe that the PCM runs tests on both O2s and cat by opening the EGR valve (if equipped) or varying the mixture slightly, then watching the reaction of the upstream and downstream O2 sensors to verify that the cat is oxidizing (HC, CO and NOx) within a set threshold. Any other suggestions or help are much appreciated. I also seen other videos on YT that people use the spark plug non-fouler adapter. In a lot of cases, the parts inside the catalytic converter will get loose, and if this is the case, you can’t repair your catalytic converter without removing and replacing it. Excludes trade quotes, stock liquidations, commercial quantities and MarketLink products. . I'm game for the lacquer thinner option I've been hearing about. So 8 copper and 8 iridium Bosch plugs plus new wires and coil boots are in. 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